Cross-Country Trikers

Cross-Country Trikers

A group for Trikers around the world who are interested in Long Distance trike flights.

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  • cburg commented on a page titled Would you ditch in water or trees?
    Two died in Seoul Korea when I was there when they dunked it going fast in a Quik-R. Mangled it. One was a kid...and the authorities shut down the flying.
  • Lucian commented on a page titled Would you ditch in water or trees?
    Never go for water you will almost always flip or twist on impact and the sail usually wraps around you with the wing tubes and cable bending around you and trapping you and you will drown.  Forget about the cost of your aircraft and think...
  • XC Triker commented on a page titled Equipment for XC Flying in a Trike- Series of emails
    My tie-down loops finally came.  I got the Dynema ones (in red) and I got a set of yellow Nylon ones for Henry.  Mine are rated at about ~6,000 lbs force, and the Nylon ones ~ 6,500 lbs force.  The yellow ones are also a bit longer...
  • XC Triker commented on a page titled Equipment for XC Flying in a Trike- Series of emails
    Wing Tie Down Loops: In addition to quick synch tie down straps (Lie THESE) (see above discussion why rope for XC tie downs is not the greatest), you will need a place to hook tie-downs on your wing to.  I like to use nylon strap...
  • XC Triker uploaded the file Tie Down Loops
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  • XC Triker commented on a page titled Equipment for XC Flying in a Trike- Series of emails
    These are pictures of a few small packets I keep in the trike for everyday flying, as well as XC.  I've weighed everything I put in the trike with a postal scale (including new equipment-- it adds up MUCH quicker than you think, so be...
  • What to take / things to consider on XC. This is a series of emails exchanged with a few friends last summer & fall before some XC trips that were planned.  We did fly the 800 mile (each way trip) to the top of Idaho and back (to visit...
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    • XC Triker

      Hey Tussock, this is actually my FAVORITE topic !!  ;)   What is Pando?  Here in the US a "torch" is something we weld with--  a flashlight to us ;)    Yes, I learned the hard way once (fortunately no wreckage / flip over, my buddies rushed over to help out), but Ropes with knots are a crappy way to tie down quickly/securely in heavy weather.  Strong straps are key--  I wouldn't have known that without experience, so wanted to share it.

    • XC Triker

      So what did all you MegaFauna people bring.  What would you leave home, what would you add next time?

    • Tussock

      Howdy XCT - great to have the prompt about the tie-downs. I've done a number of multi-day flying/camping trips that involve landing in paddocks or agricultural strips that may be several days walk to the nearest road or house, and preparation is something I think about a lot but never feel I've got sorted! A tyre pando is one of those pressurised canisters of sealing foam that stop holes and inflate tyres. I figure that a flat tyre and a damaged prop are the two things most likely to prevent me from flying home, though the comments above make me think I should add a few castle nuts and safety pins to the kit....

      I have an inflatable mattress, petrol stove and a tiny, coffin-like tent that I take on these trips.  The trike has a seventy litre tank  - not sure how that equates to gallons, sorry - and if I throw a 20 litre jerrycan in the back seat I've got around 8 hours of flying, which gets you a fair way here in NZ. 

      My navigation has been solely by knowing my way around, but I've reluctantly (I'm the world's only electrical engineer who dislikes electronics on yachts and trikes) got an android with an aviation nav app.  If you've got any hints on what I can do to make it visible in sunlight I'd love to know!

  • XC Triker commented on a page titled Would you ditch in water or trees?
    You know they really didn't say how "shallow" the shallow water is.  Shallow water usually has a beach--  but, this is all theoretical.  Trees look scary to me-- but Jozinko, they're talking about trees being a...
  • XC Triker commented on a page titled VFR Personal Weather Minimums
    Yeah, the question was worded weird-  but basically it's supposed to get you to think about personal minimums for example although your trike is rated up to 15Kt cross wind component, you may say that anytime the X-wind component is greater...
  • Jozinko commented on a page titled VFR Personal Weather Minimums
    This should be a joke of a day, isnt it?
  • Jozinko commented on a page titled Would you ditch in water or trees?
    I would land into the water near the coast because I havent rocket rescue system. When I would be low then I would slow sharply and sit down as a parachute. Damage of my trike and wing will be smaller than landing between trees.
  • Kael Rowan commented on a page titled Would you ditch in water or trees?
    I'd pick the trees with my BRS. 
  • XC Triker commented on a page titled iPad Mini Killer for Less Than Half the Price
    Three is fine, but we should keep them because we have to re-weigh the trikes occasionally-  ie after adding new dash instruments, etc.    I've weighed most of the individual components with a postal scale as I...
  • XC Triker created a page Would you ditch in water or trees?
    QUESTION: Given a choice with an engine failure, would you land in shallow water near a shoreline or go for a tall stand of pine trees? Wally Moran tackles this difficult decision HERE
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    • Lucian

      Never go for water you will almost always flip or twist on impact and the sail usually wraps around you with the wing tubes and cable bending around you and trapping you and you will drown.  Forget about the cost of your aircraft and think about your well being.  Always go for the trees and ALWAYS go in a bit hard to stay stuck there.  A few have tried to land soft on top of trees and then they have rolled over and dropped dozens of feet and some suffered severe injuries, to death.  Get your self wedged in and it is best to wait for help to arrive before unstrapping yourself.  I have witnessed two tree landings.  One I assisted by climbing the tree to help extract the pilot safely.

      The other time the pilot did not want to wait until help and ropes arrived and let himself out of the seat belt and tried to get to the trunk but fell and broke many bones on impact.  He could have snapped his neck on the way down on a branch or when he hit the ground and would have been dead.  If over water and you can land on the beach or shore, do that otherwise do not go into the water, go into a tree and do it firmly so you wedge in there.  I have written extensively on this subject on the Trike Social list on another web site.  Go and research the articles you will learn a lot but do not go into the water.  You will not float down like a parachute by pushing out the bar, if you think that then you clearly do not understand trike flying and need to go back to lesson school if you are already flying.

    • cburg

      Two died in Seoul Korea when I was there when they dunked it going fast in a Quik-R. Mangled it. One was a kid...and the authorities shut down the flying.

    • white eagle

      Well as a glide head I would always have chosen a group of trees.as a trikehead in a slow big wing I would opt I think for the trees.but in a fast heavy trike I might opt for the shallows and try to hold flare at min vne.a hangie friend of mine hung up on a poderosa on a Hugh pinicale he was fine untill rescue team dropped him fifty feet.broke almost every bone in his body but lived to fly again.Jimmy pica if your out their somewhere you were awesome dude.

  • Peter D. commented on a page titled iPad Mini Killer for Less Than Half the Price
    I say get three, weigh all our trikes then sell on ebay if no one wants them.
  • XC Triker commented on a page titled iPad Mini Killer for Less Than Half the Price
    Hey @Peter D. With tethering from your cell phone available, that makes sense not to get the cellular equipped iPad-  avoid one more monthly cell charge. On another note, let's get some scales--  truthfully, all we need is one...
  • XC Triker created a page VFR Personal Weather Minimums
    Subscriber Question: "I am a VFR Pilot and would like to know how to determine the worst weather condition I can fly in and still be safe?"   For the "answer" click HERE
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    • Jozinko

      This should be a joke of a day, isnt it?

    • XC Triker

      Yeah, the question was worded weird-  but basically it's supposed to get you to think about personal minimums for example although your trike is rated up to 15Kt cross wind component, you may say that anytime the X-wind component is greater than 10Kt, I will not fly.  Also, asking you to think about the global picture.  If everything is moderately crappy- near your minimums, then it's probably not a good day to fly.  If you set these limits before hand when you're at home thinking about it, not in the heat of the moment itching to take-off with your friends, then you're less likely to get caught outside your limits.  I think that's the point.

      The question is funny though!  "What's the absolute worst conditions I can fly in?  A tornado?  Hm, let me think about that ...

  • Peter D. commented on a page titled iPad Mini Killer for Less Than Half the Price
      I got the ipad without cellular and bought the Garmin Glo GPS sensor for $99. It works great and you can go with just the wifi version of the ipad mini or ipad. That way you are also not paying a monthly cellular...
  • I think so to some extent.   By Stephen Pope / Published: Jan 07, 2013 Flying  (www.flyingmag.com) http://www.flyingmag.com/avionics-gear/weather-go     It's hard to overstate the benefits of having...
  •   By Robert Goyer / Published: Jan 04, 2013  in FLYING  ( www.flyingmag.com )   For those of you who’ve been trying to get your hands on an Apple iPad Mini, there’s good news. You might not...
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    • XC Triker

      Hey @Peter D.

      With tethering from your cell phone available, that makes sense not to get the cellular equipped iPad-  avoid one more monthly cell charge.

      On another note, let's get some scales--  truthfully, all we need is one and two equal sized blocks of wood.  Or we can get three, your choice

    • Peter D.

      I say get three, weigh all our trikes then sell on ebay if no one wants them.

    • XC Triker

      Three is fine, but we should keep them because we have to re-weigh the trikes occasionally-  ie after adding new dash instruments, etc.    I've weighed most of the individual components with a postal scale as I installed/removed them or put them in the trike (ie XC equipment), but I'd like a global measurement