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Tussock commented on the poll Installing a BRS (recovery parachute)- Preference / use by Country- Tussock voted on the poll Installing a BRS (recovery parachute)- Preference / use by CountryComments
- ULtrikepilot yesterday
Wow, another poll I never saw before. Very interesting as there does appear to be a country effect. My first WSC CFI did not believe in putting one on his trike. I felt strong enough about having one that I discontinued using him.
- flyhighglider 3 hours ago
All HG competitions in Australia, and I've been to many since the 1980's, both State, National and International level, enforce ALL pilots to have a parachute. The chute must be recently repacked. This is a mandatory requirement. I personally know some pilots who have been saved under canopy. These were all hand deployed chutes which would not be suitable for a normal 2 seat trike.
I know of one trike pilot that entered a spiral dive and died in WA in the 1990's. He may have been saved by a ballistic chute, I don't know. Otherwise, the incidents in Australia seem to be very low and may be that is why we see the results of the poll showing Australian pilots are not generally fitting chutes which seems to be the opposite to the trend in the USA.
Does anyone know why this is the case?
- Tussock 36 minutes ago
A hang gliding 'chute is relatively cheap, and a small proportion of equipment cost. Accidental deployments are rare, and those that have happened have for the most part had minor consequences.
Cost is a factor for trikes when the benefits may be uncertain. And a deployment on a trike, deliberately or accidentally, is likely to be more serious. While there's no doubt that lives have been genuinely saved, there are a number of cases cited on the net of other "saves" that might not have been necessary, and a little deliberate pilotage could have prevented use of the 'chute. I hope I'm not seen as being critical here, but as a spiral dive has been mentioned, I'd rather fly with someone who could easily recover from a spiral dive without resorting to a chute than one for whom it is their recovery method of choice (although losing visibility of the horizon in a spiral dive is a good case for a chute). There have also been unintended deployments with serious consequences.
Personal choice. I think on balance that they're a good idea, but there are plenty of pilots where I live - including commercial operators - who choose not to have them for valid reasons. I do think that there are far fewer occasions that make a chute the best option than there have been deployments, but if ain't got one you've eliminated the ultimate, last-ditch thing to try in a small number of circumstances. I respect the opinions of those who wouldn't fly without one.
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- flyhighglider commented on the poll Installing a BRS (recovery parachute)- Preference / use by Country
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- Rick D voted on the poll Installing a BRS (recovery parachute)- Preference / use by CountryComments
- ULtrikepilot yesterday
Wow, another poll I never saw before. Very interesting as there does appear to be a country effect. My first WSC CFI did not believe in putting one on his trike. I felt strong enough about having one that I discontinued using him.
- flyhighglider 3 hours ago
All HG competitions in Australia, and I've been to many since the 1980's, both State, National and International level, enforce ALL pilots to have a parachute. The chute must be recently repacked. This is a mandatory requirement. I personally know some pilots who have been saved under canopy. These were all hand deployed chutes which would not be suitable for a normal 2 seat trike.
I know of one trike pilot that entered a spiral dive and died in WA in the 1990's. He may have been saved by a ballistic chute, I don't know. Otherwise, the incidents in Australia seem to be very low and may be that is why we see the results of the poll showing Australian pilots are not generally fitting chutes which seems to be the opposite to the trend in the USA.
Does anyone know why this is the case?
- Tussock 36 minutes ago
A hang gliding 'chute is relatively cheap, and a small proportion of equipment cost. Accidental deployments are rare, and those that have happened have for the most part had minor consequences.
Cost is a factor for trikes when the benefits may be uncertain. And a deployment on a trike, deliberately or accidentally, is likely to be more serious. While there's no doubt that lives have been genuinely saved, there are a number of cases cited on the net of other "saves" that might not have been necessary, and a little deliberate pilotage could have prevented use of the 'chute. I hope I'm not seen as being critical here, but as a spiral dive has been mentioned, I'd rather fly with someone who could easily recover from a spiral dive without resorting to a chute than one for whom it is their recovery method of choice (although losing visibility of the horizon in a spiral dive is a good case for a chute). There have also been unintended deployments with serious consequences.
Personal choice. I think on balance that they're a good idea, but there are plenty of pilots where I live - including commercial operators - who choose not to have them for valid reasons. I do think that there are far fewer occasions that make a chute the best option than there have been deployments, but if ain't got one you've eliminated the ultimate, last-ditch thing to try in a small number of circumstances. I respect the opinions of those who wouldn't fly without one.
- ULtrikepilot commented on the poll Installing a BRS (recovery parachute)- Preference / use by Country
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- ULtrikepilot yesterday
Wow, another poll I never saw before. Very interesting as there does appear to be a country effect. My first WSC CFI did not believe in putting one on his trike. I felt strong enough about having one that I discontinued using him.
- flyhighglider 3 hours ago
All HG competitions in Australia, and I've been to many since the 1980's, both State, National and International level, enforce ALL pilots to have a parachute. The chute must be recently repacked. This is a mandatory requirement. I personally know some pilots who have been saved under canopy. These were all hand deployed chutes which would not be suitable for a normal 2 seat trike.
I know of one trike pilot that entered a spiral dive and died in WA in the 1990's. He may have been saved by a ballistic chute, I don't know. Otherwise, the incidents in Australia seem to be very low and may be that is why we see the results of the poll showing Australian pilots are not generally fitting chutes which seems to be the opposite to the trend in the USA.
Does anyone know why this is the case?
- Tussock 36 minutes ago
A hang gliding 'chute is relatively cheap, and a small proportion of equipment cost. Accidental deployments are rare, and those that have happened have for the most part had minor consequences.
Cost is a factor for trikes when the benefits may be uncertain. And a deployment on a trike, deliberately or accidentally, is likely to be more serious. While there's no doubt that lives have been genuinely saved, there are a number of cases cited on the net of other "saves" that might not have been necessary, and a little deliberate pilotage could have prevented use of the 'chute. I hope I'm not seen as being critical here, but as a spiral dive has been mentioned, I'd rather fly with someone who could easily recover from a spiral dive without resorting to a chute than one for whom it is their recovery method of choice (although losing visibility of the horizon in a spiral dive is a good case for a chute). There have also been unintended deployments with serious consequences.
Personal choice. I think on balance that they're a good idea, but there are plenty of pilots where I live - including commercial operators - who choose not to have them for valid reasons. I do think that there are far fewer occasions that make a chute the best option than there have been deployments, but if ain't got one you've eliminated the ultimate, last-ditch thing to try in a small number of circumstances. I respect the opinions of those who wouldn't fly without one.
- Garrett Speeter voted on the poll Installing a BRS (recovery parachute)- Preference / use by CountryComments
- ULtrikepilot yesterday
Wow, another poll I never saw before. Very interesting as there does appear to be a country effect. My first WSC CFI did not believe in putting one on his trike. I felt strong enough about having one that I discontinued using him.
- flyhighglider 3 hours ago
All HG competitions in Australia, and I've been to many since the 1980's, both State, National and International level, enforce ALL pilots to have a parachute. The chute must be recently repacked. This is a mandatory requirement. I personally know some pilots who have been saved under canopy. These were all hand deployed chutes which would not be suitable for a normal 2 seat trike.
I know of one trike pilot that entered a spiral dive and died in WA in the 1990's. He may have been saved by a ballistic chute, I don't know. Otherwise, the incidents in Australia seem to be very low and may be that is why we see the results of the poll showing Australian pilots are not generally fitting chutes which seems to be the opposite to the trend in the USA.
Does anyone know why this is the case?
- Tussock 36 minutes ago
A hang gliding 'chute is relatively cheap, and a small proportion of equipment cost. Accidental deployments are rare, and those that have happened have for the most part had minor consequences.
Cost is a factor for trikes when the benefits may be uncertain. And a deployment on a trike, deliberately or accidentally, is likely to be more serious. While there's no doubt that lives have been genuinely saved, there are a number of cases cited on the net of other "saves" that might not have been necessary, and a little deliberate pilotage could have prevented use of the 'chute. I hope I'm not seen as being critical here, but as a spiral dive has been mentioned, I'd rather fly with someone who could easily recover from a spiral dive without resorting to a chute than one for whom it is their recovery method of choice (although losing visibility of the horizon in a spiral dive is a good case for a chute). There have also been unintended deployments with serious consequences.
Personal choice. I think on balance that they're a good idea, but there are plenty of pilots where I live - including commercial operators - who choose not to have them for valid reasons. I do think that there are far fewer occasions that make a chute the best option than there have been deployments, but if ain't got one you've eliminated the ultimate, last-ditch thing to try in a small number of circumstances. I respect the opinions of those who wouldn't fly without one.
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