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The end of Cessna's Lightsport forray: Skycatcher's Demise- in with a Roar, out with a Whimper-- was it the $150K price?

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As it's going, will trikes price themselves out of reach too?

From: http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/Skycatchers-Demise-Barely-a-Ripple-221074-1.html

Memes are ideas, accepted wisdom and cultural touchpoints that get handed from one person to another via, well, who knows how? By e-mail, television, blogs, word of mouth. They take on a life of their own. When I ask myself how some in aviation get started, maybe I only need look in the mirror. In December 2009, I wrote this little gem about the Cessna Skycatcher: “If there’s anything that passes for conventional wisdom in the world of light sport, it’s that Cessna would dominate when it entered the market. In our view, the Skycatcher more or less confirms this.” Yet four years later, the conventional wisdom has been turned on its head and I find myself wondering why I wrote that. So I spent last week talking to more than a dozen people about their impression of Cessna’s decision to exit the light sport business. (Note please here that Cessna hasn’t plainly said the Skycatcher won’t be built anymore; just that it has no future.) What about this notion that when it entered the business, Cessna would—or so many people said—validate the entire light sport thing as somehow legitimate? I’m sure people told me that, which is why I felt it worthy of repeating. “I may have heard it enough times myself that I just parroted it back,” says Flight Design’s John Gilmore. “I think everybody was maybe hoping for the resurrection of the 150.” That didn’t happen, of course, and with about 200 airframes in the field, the Skycatcher never achieved the market dominance everyone assumed it would. There are a host of reasons for this, but the overarching one is probably price. When Cessna raised the price to nearly $150,000 for an entry level airplane that had weight issues and didn’t outperform its many competitors, it gave position holders an opportunity to bail, and they did. In droves.

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  • Ken

    Bummer - I think the whole light sport industry needs to stay alive for us to stay alive

  • XC Triker

    I agree Ken, they did bring it out just about when the economy fell out, maybe with it picking up things will improve ... the trickle out effect is important for all our light flying sports. I gotta agree though that a $150K price is not entry level.  Maybe the just passed Small Airplane Revitalization Act will help reduce entry costs for manufacturers.

  • Ole

    Says Flight Design’s John Gilmore. “I think everybody was maybe hoping for the resurrection of the 150. Except for that fool Ole of course. He's too stuck in the past and doesn't give a rat's ass about the 150."

  • XC Triker

    Where'd he say that quote @WingedGringo? Flight Design has a nice lightsport 3-axis, pricey though too right? I've seen some good deals on the used market though. I guess the hope was that a rising tide (of lightsport) floats all ships (trikes too). Hasn't quite worked out that way though, eh Ole. All's not lost though.

    BTW, how was Vegas?

  • white eagle

    Ive never been a big fan of the c150. And as far as ole goes why dont we go even a little farther in the past.when you could purchase a surplus pt-17 for $500 or a p-51 mustang for $2500 .or the day when anyone could learn to fly in a piper cub.my father bought bob hoovers pt-19 a low wing open cockpit trainer.it was destroyed in a windstorm when another pilot didnt tie his plane down.i still can see the radial engine hanging in my uncles barn..
    The biggest danger to flying today is affordability.everyone wants to be a billionaire. I think bob sold my dad the 19
    For $300?

  • cburg

    The 152 was a better aircraft...plus it made a bunch of 0200s available for EABs ;-)

  • XC Triker

    Yeah @Cburg , "trickle down" is way better than "no-down."  A rising tide floats all ships.  On a similar note, I don't like Drones much and don't want them in my airspace or over my freeways or house, etc, but all the drone activity has resulted in a significant push forward on Prop technology that we are able to see in trike propellers becoming available.

    Hey, what were your end thoughts about that static thrust competition that was ran several months ago?

    http://alltrikes.com/elgg/pages/view/10317/cross-category-static-thrust-competition#.UqjD9Y1Q1YI

  • cburg

    Weather caused a postponement of the thrust test until the next fly-in...Rotors Over The Rockies:

    http://www.utahrotorcraft.org/WR/Western_Rotorcraft_2013_07_hires.pdf

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