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Here is SkyVector showing some flying I have completed as of and including CrossCountry NAVs endorsement in March 2014.

100 hours - a Century

Last updated by crayonbox Comments (44)

Categories: Training / Learning to Fly a Trike

In 1.3hrs I will have completed a total of 100 hours since my Microlight training began in July last year.

A significant milestone. Currently I have 49.7 hours dual (includes instruction or with passengers),  and a total of 49 hours solo.  I have been trying to exceed my dual hours with solo hours, and that's about to happen too.  I started soloing in January so that has taken me 6 months to achieve.

I'll probably fly the 1.3 hours tomorrow and celebrate on the weekend :-)


How is everyone else doing with their hours?


  • white eagle

    , congratulations cb sure looks as if you have had some great instruction! My hours have just sucked Other because of weather or work but planning on changing that asap.but I did get some fly fishing in last week.a nice rainbow a German brown, a cut throat and a couple of brookies on dry flys.sorry Janet but theirs going to be alot of trout testifying against me at the pearlie gates but we cut are red meat down by 95% :-)

  • XC Triker

    Hey Crayon,  That's awesome!  100 hours is a big deal!  I think you should count your non-instructed hours with a passenger as solo hours.  Fly safe!!!  Sometimes around this time pilots have plenty of knowledge to fly well, but haven't had enough career near misses yet to put the healthy fear/caution back into them.  Not saying that's your case, but I know it happened to me in Hang Gliding.

    Love seeing your flying and your enthusiasm!


  • crayonbox

    Xc, I read that after 150hrs, a pilot is considered experienced and safe.  At 100 hours many pilots get over confident and take too many risks.  As i am aware of these numbers, I still play things safe and by the book.  So here's to another safe 50hours.  In case your wondering i was fully certified at 29hours.

  • XC Triker

    150, 151 safe? 149 unsafe?  I got an insurance break at 250+ hours in make and model, but still make mistakes  ;)  We read about 10,000+  hour pilots getting caught unaware and killed too frequently.  I don't think a specific hour makes anyone bullet proof, just extra time for experience and some wisdom to soak in.  Safety is a permanent feature of life--  I'm just commenting for the other guys.  You're doing well CrayonBox.

  • white eagle

    I disagree xc 151 that's almost pure alcohol. I don't even think I could get in my trike with 151. joking well personally logged time doesn't mean that much to are either flying safe or not flying safe, I don't want to leave that up to how many hours I fly.I'd rather judge myself on weather Iam doing good maintenance, preflight, not influenced or rushed, weather and wind identification, following a safe plan am I keeping a safe altitude, reachable lzs.there's no excuse if you have had good training to be unsafe at 10 hours or 1000 you fly at 20 hours depends on how well you listen and follow you're instructors you shouldn't be any less safe at 20 hours.if you're following good common sense instruction you should be just as safe . if not than we fail ourselves and there's a weak link in training.

  • white eagle

    I guess in short I don't plan on being less safe at 50hours I recognize my in experience and plan on being more safe.

  • jeff trike

    100 hrs total time is a significant milestone but you are just getting started and I think those are too few hours to be taking passengers have no clue of the risks involved.  I waited till 270 hours as "Pilot in Command" before I took up a passenger that was not an instructor in the back seat.

    Anyone else have an opinion on that?


    Once we start accumulating some hours we start feeling invincible, and enter the "The Killing Zone".  This is a GA pilot book, but everything applies to trike pilots.  I highly recommend it, especially if you are in "The Killing Zone"  (50 to 350 hrs).



    Don't fly solo before you understand all the dangers of the killing zone.

    It could save your life!

    This survival guide for new pilots identifies the pitfalls waiting inside the killing zone, the period from 50 to 350 flight hours when they leave their instructors behind and fly as pilot in command for the first time. Although they're privately certified, many of these unseasoned aviators are unaware of the potential accidents that lie ahead while trying to build decision-making skills on their own -- many times falling victim to inexperience.

    Based on the first in-depth scientific study of pilot behavior and general aviation flying accidents in over 20 years, The Killing Zone, Second Edition offers practical advice to help identify the time frame in which you are most likely to die. Author and aviation specialist Paul Craig offers rare insights into the special risks new pilots face and includes updated preventive strategies for flying through the killing zone . . . alive:



  • crayonbox

    Thanks for all the advice above.  I always plan to fly safe.  You can never be over cautious. Experience teaches us things that can save us in unforeseen situations.

    Anyway - I now have 50.3 hours solo time and 49.7 hours dual.  A total of 100 hours exactly, and more solo (alone time in the air) than dual time.  I had to fly an extra 6 minutes today to make it to my milestone - but that wasn't hard - there was no wind. But the clouds and showers were starting to build so it was time to land anyway.

    We also have Killer Whales (Orca) in the area which is very rare.  Two have died from stranding and the others won't leave to save themselves. I got to see them today while I flew.  I'll put some photos up later. 

  • XC Triker

    I was going to say, hey that adds up to 100!  (I thought you were going to hit 100 later this week).

    Sorry to hear about the whales mourning their loss.  Aren't you pretty far North / warm for Orcas?  Are they common there?

    Hey @Jeff_trike, I'd agree that pilots should wait some time before taking passengers and always be on your best behavior with passengers.  I just don't think I could state a particular number of hours-- it depends on the pilot, their maturity, the area and type of flying they do.  Taking your wife once around the pattern at 50 hours is probably OK in most circumstances.  There's some pilots I've seen that I don't care how many hours they have, I will never get in an aircraft with them.  The author you mentioned actually has research to back up his numbers.  I think what you did is a great example of professionalism.

  • crayonbox


    Orcas are not common here.  Especially on this side of Fraser Island in the Straits.  So this is a rare opportunity.

    They are sometimes seen on the other side of Fraser Island, following the Humpback whale annual migration North, which has been happening now for a few months.  In a month or so the humpbacks will be arriving in the Bay here for people to go and see for 3-4months, resting and playing with newborn calves.  Estimates of approx 6000 whales visit the bay each year on their Southerly return to the Antartic waters.

    Regarding passengers. We have a system of endorsement that is tested by an instructor prior to being allowed to carry passengers, and I passed mine in March.  You have to have flown a minimum of 10 hours solo as PIC (pilot in command) after certification, prior to being tested for this endorsement.


  • crayonbox

    Henry - that's what we do - that's what my instructor told me when I asked him how I should write it up anyway.

  • Bill Pilgrim

    Henry, I write mine up the same as C.Box.

    With regard to hours before taking Pax, in Australia we have an endorsement on our pilot certificate for it, we have to do 40 hrs solo, then show the instructor we are proficient. That is with the HGFA, not sure what the RAAus requirement is.

    It seems to be a good system in my experience

  • white eagle

    Jeff I couldn't agree with you wife likes to fly and would love to fly with me.but even though I,ve had considerable hang gliding experience my trike time is not that much 60 hours.I wouldn't even consider taking her until 250 hours or's one thing risking me another risking others.

  • RizzyWizzy

    Congrats Crayonbox, what a great achievement. What did man do before there were Trikes?

  • cburg

    Sounds like you need to use a blank column and call it “Two-Place”. In a two-pilot aircraft it would be PIC or SIC time. The term “Dual” in FAA logbook terminology means Dual Instruction Received time. At some point in your flying career you will be required to change it if you progress through the ratings. Also, if you ever have the FAA review you log book, and they will if something happens, then you want it to be properly recorded.

  • crayonbox

    Cburg - I'll send a message asking my local organisation what is the correct way to record. Thanks!  (ps, I'm in Australia).

  • cburg

    I didn’t know you were down-under. It will be interesting to see if there are any minor differences. ICAO should result in very similar pilot logging requirements. However, our Sport Pilot is not an ICAO rating, unlike all of our other ratings.

    This is why I encourage guys to get their Private WSC instead of the Sport. I think that eventually there will be a Commercial WSC (possibly PPC too) like there is in Gyros and most other aircraft categories.

    I’ve discussed with several FAA guys whether there will ever be a Multi-Engine WSC rating and the answer is always…”NEVER”.

    I hope they are wrong. Currently, the only way to fly a Multi-Engine WSC is EAB Solo, and that’s only if the new Ops Limits permit it. Consequently, a wing with control surfaces registered as an EAB Airplane is required to fly one with passengers (or single place 103).

    What’s Australia’s regulations regarding Multi-Engine WSC trikes?

  • cburg

    In your case, you should also have a “single-place” column and not use your Solo column for that. Solo is intended for Solo flight prior to obtaining the rating for that aircraft category. If you jumble it together it is confusing and not the correct way to log it. 40 years ago we did not also include Solo time as PIC. Nowadays, folks enter their Solo time along with entering it as PIC…which makes perfect sense.

    Back then, your first hour of PIC was logged during your Check-Ride…if you passed it.

    As a side note, the only way for two people to log PIC is for a Safety Pilot to log PIC along with the PIC who’s flying under the hood.

    This is how most guys save money when logging expensive multi-engine time.

  • cburg

    See if you like this Logbook:

  • crayonbox

    If you are a member of the HGFA in Australia, then the solo time is for flights alone, and the dual time is when flying under instruction or with a passenger.  I confirmed this as correct.

  • crayonbox

    I am at 99.3hrs of solo. Nearly another century milestone. (Nautical milestone that is).

    Just in from a wonderful 1.2hr flight to Coongul Creek on Fraser Island and back (alone - no takers today). It was beautiful.  Even though we had 11/15kts at the airport and 29c at departure time.  I have been conditioning myself to the regular turbulence at this time of year so turb during my Navs endorsement wont bother me.

    From Maryborough (YMYB) in the South, I went North to here...

  • Noel C

    Congrats CB. Great milestone Keep up the flying, be aware of the risk of complacency and continue to fly safe.  I am a little way behind you with only 74 hrs on trikes of which approx 50 are solo (these hours did include my training Nav's as PIC).

    On the subject of at what hours to take passengers, I am not sure you can put flying hours as the defining factor.  I have taken passengers, however I like to think I mitigate the risks in order to make the experience for my passenger enjoyable and give me the experience of taking a passenger.  My approach has been

    - start by taking passengers who are familiar with trike flying.  This avoids the added pressure of someone panicking in the back seat.

    - only take passengers for a local flight in very benign conditions.

    - fly conservatively with gentle turns etc (don't show off)

    - dont put pressure on family members or friend to come flying with you.  Let them approach you if they are interested. 

    - dont take passengers on xc flights until well experienced specifically in xc flying.

    - dont take passengers in conditions where you believe you may be challenged such as increased turbulence or cross winds.  We need to be challenged (in increments) to progress and learn

    The benefits for me is I get to practise and refine my passenger briefing process and learn to manage the flight with a passenger in the back seat and hopefully make the experience enjoyable for my passenger.  In OZ our training includes a passenger endorsement after you have demonstrated a minimum number of solo hours post licence test.  Like everything associated with getting a licence, this is a demonstration that you have achieved the minimum requirements for flying competently after which the learning process and experience continues.

    I have only taken a few people up for a flight but by adhering to my own self imposed rules have always felt confident and comfortable on those flights.

  • crayonbox

    Hi Noel.  Yes good advice above.  I didnt mention that i also now have 35hrs with passengers, and 29hrs of training with instructor dual. This milestone of 100hrs only is for solo hours alone.  Total flying hours is now 164.

    i like that you mentioned above that you should not pressure people to fly with you, that benign conditions are best for low hour passengers, and that you should only take passengers in very comfortable for the pilot type weather.  REMEMBER... don't scare the victim.... I mean passenger lol.


  • XC Triker

    Congrats again CB !!  You know another thing is recency of flight--  you are racking up hours at a pretty good clip.  Keep up the safety.  We are all (especially me) learning all the time and gaining experience.